XP + Lead Pastor Conversations: “Making Time?” , TheChurchHub Podcast #005

In ministry, time is the most valuable—and most easily lost—resource. Every pastor on your team wants a moment with the lead pastor, but what happens when the calendar always says “no”? Join Phil Taylor and Chip Bernhard as they unpack how intentional time—shared lunches, walk-around moments, and hallway conversations—can transform a staff culture from transactional to relational. This isn’t about adding more meetings; it’s about making time for what truly builds trust, unity, and health in your team.Because sometimes, five minutes of presence can do more for your staff than fifty minutes of planning.